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June 16 consciousness and science

On consciousness and science

Excerpts from the shownotes of the Just Be it blog talk radio show

On consciousness unlimited blog talk radio on June 16

In the last 2 episodes I discussed science and God, discussing the limiting view of materialistic science which is still widely teached in uni and schools and focusing, limiting because they do still leave the idea of God out of their equations.  We also looked into some key findings of modern science in quantum physics.

Please also do write to me. I love to hear what you liked and what you want to me discuss in this show..you can contact me at justbeit13@googlemail.com.
So ultimately we cannot with our mind grasp the idea of the Absolute consciousness.
But something in us, the Divine Being we are, will resonate to the information, and concepts I am discussing today from science, especially QP. So my intention is that this will be a contribution to preparing you to move beyond these concepts into a deeper realization of who you are.

It was Albert Einstein who spoke about the relationship of matter, space and time, the interdependency of each other. It was quantum physics who added another important component : the observer, meaning consciousness, a sentient being.

Let me take a brief moment to recapture 2 key findings of Quantum physics which relate to the discussion of consciousness. You can find more information about that in my previous episodes and on my blog. However as Einstein said, a lot of theory nothing has come close yet to the Old Man (meaning God)..however if we look at the Absolute consciousness, the ultimate Beingness as God and the key findings of QM we might come closer to the Old Man.
The observer, consciousness
Quantum Physics tells us in the famous double slit experiment the following:
The smallest part of something, we call quantum  in form as photons (smallest quantum of light) or in form of  electrons are not really particles of matter. They are a field of potential, a field of pure vibration. When this field is observed by us, measured so to speak, all these wave like qualities collapse into a particle.. All this has been proven mathematically but cannot be demonstrated visually. Keep in mind that the words quantum, electrons and so on are just analogies.

The idea of non locality proven in an QP experiment (which I will speak about more detail later in this episode) might point to an Absolute which encompasses All that is.

It is modern scientist and thinkers who brought the idea of consciousness into this discussion.

Dr. David Yurth, is a cientist writer and Phd in the field of cosmology says:
There is no such thing as objective science. We cannot separate the observer and the means of observation from that which is observed PAUSE because Consciousness is embedded in the process.”

Classical physics investigates the relationship of one thing to another. However it never asked for the intrinsic nature of that it does observe. It actually looks just at the effect of something from the outside By Looking from the outside In.
Of course science will never find see consciousness as a fundamental property or force.

This reductionist view of science was also critized by Heisenberg and Max Planck., the founding fathers of Quantum physics. Both of them felt that religious and science can work together said Max Planck and Heisenberg expressed that the discoveries they made in demands for a holistic view, a metaphysical discussion.

However  in Buddhism and in the scripture of the Upanishads of ancient India, in Taoism, it is very much part of their philosophy.

Whatever appears, like the stars and planets in the sky,
is the display of the self-appearing attributes of intrinsic awareness
in the vast expanse of ultimate nature.
says Sogpo Tentar, a Tibetan Rinpoche.

So what is this intrinsic awareness, this consciousness?
If we look at the definitions of lexica or science we speak of a the quality of being aware, of something within oneself, or the ability to imagine in oneself something of future actions.
However all this can also be done by a machine. The various definitions of consciousness by science allow for a lot of speculation, especially in brain research.
I use consciousness is in the context of the old scripture of the Vedic seers, the Upanishads, which hold the Vedanta, the end of the sacred knowledge (sacred knowledge meaning veda).
The word Upanishads means sitting close to the feet…these were carefully passed on oral teachings, the oldest about 1.500 years ago. They are based on sharing of seers, who were able to consciously connect to that pure consciousness, which they called the Brahman.

One of the statements made in the Upanishads is the Brahman, the Absolute is consciousness.
A consciousness which reflects on itself.
And Shankara the famous teacher says in his famous to the Upanishads, that Brahman cannot be described, because description implies distinction. Yet the Brahman cannot be distinguished because it is ALL THAT IS.

The non local experiment, or also called entanglement theory in Quantum physics.
It is the experiment by the French physicist Alain Aspects and called the Aspect experiment.
What happens in this experiment is that an atom emits two photons meaning quanta of light going opposite ways each in a far distance from each other. ,  (so they were entangled which is why we also speak about entanglement experiment)   Yet these 2  photons affect one another’s state  without exchanging any signals through space.  Instantaneously they are affecting each other.

The influence is immediate so it does not travel by the speed of light. Therefore it could not have traveled through space. Instead the influence on each others states of the 2 photons must belong to a transcendent domain of reality.
This instant influence points in the view of many modern scientist like Dr. Fred Allan Wolf or Dr. Goswami  to the idea that there is as transcendent field, , a God’s self, a self reflecting being Indeed, for all we know, consciousness may be an intrinsic quality of the underlying reality of the entire universe.

Now let us look at the search of science to the question: what came first, consciousness or matter?
Science and especially brain research keeps looking in the wrong direction, as it does not see consciousness as the primary force. This understanding is still widely common, even though there are puzzled by the findings of  Quantum physics.

Science and especially brain research still asks the wrong: question: How does the material world—the world of space, time and matter—give rise to consciousness?  the non local experiement – I just described – shows however that space, time and matter fall from their absolute status, to be replaced by consciousness (the inner light) in the world of experience.

The question we should be asking is the exact opposite. How is that consciousness, which seems so non-material, can take on the material forms that we experience? How do space, time, color, sound, texture, substance, and the many other qualities that we associate with the material world, emerge in consciousness? What is the process of manifestation within the mind? These questions have been written by the physicist Peter Russell who was once working with Stephen Hawking.

Peter Russell also says and I quote:
“Instead of matter being primary, and the source of everything we know, including mind;consciousness becomes primary, and the source of everything, including matter, as we know it. For a second time, the universe has been turned inside out.

You can find more information Peter Russell and Dr. Goswami on my blog justbeittalk.wordpress.com

Let us turn back to ancient wisdom from India and quote from  the Mayavada Sutra says about consciousness

The Mayavada Sutra  is based on the vedic scriptures of the ancient seekers, as the sutra is an extensive commentary by Shankara on the 10 Upanishads teachings.

And it says:  Only The Absolute consciousness exists, everything else is Illusion.

 “. The absolute consciousness is the one and only Beingness, which is the One Base for all the diversity of Life itself. “

“And there is not really emptiness, everything is filled with the Absolute consciousness.”13.13

Although, Shankara cautions the reader to handle this material carefully and only if he has advanced from selfish and egoistical thought, , it does not free us from the responsibility to be a decent human being.
John Richardson says: consciousness is the very Nature of Being. And if consciousness is Its Nature, then dynamic self-reflection is Its Experience.

Now let us look at the The observer individual consciousness the Atman, the Divine in us individual consciousness.

Quantum physics  says : An observer’s looking is essential in order to manifest possibility into actuality, and so only when the observer looks, only then does the entire thing become manifest—including time. The observer collapses the vibrational field of possibility into matter, space and time.

Already in the 1930’s Sir James Jeans an English physicist and mathematician, teaching at Cambridge and Princeton university said: and I quote: 
If the physical world is not absolute,
the energetic forces we attribute to this world also may not be fundamental. In some sense they, too, may come from us!
How did that observer come in place:
Out of the Absolute, the Beingness thru self-reflection an conscious, sentient being arose and the entire universe came into being, matter..

Dr. Goswami says: The universe is self-aware, but it is self-aware through us. We are the meaning of the universe. In other words we are we are an aspect of the Absolute consciousness. And in a kind of strange way it needs us to manifest matter in our world. . It is thru this play und through us simply (created by the self-reflecting Absolute consciousness) that the God’s self can become aware of itself.

As Grandmother Pa’Ris’Sha says: The universe is in us, and we are the universe.
The scripture of the Upanishads expresses 4 main principles, the Vedanta:

tat tvam asi —  Thou art that
meaning our Inner Divine Being is identical with the Brahman the consciousness.

prajñânam brahma —  consciousness is Brahman

aham brahmâsmi —  I am Brahman

ayam âtmâ brahma — This self in you is Brahman.
Our inner divine self, the Atman, is identical with the Absolute consciousness.
The same and identical comes also across with the saying of Sri Ramakrishna

“Those who cannot find god in themselves will never find him outside of himself.
But those, who find him in the temple of his own soul, can see God also in the temple which the universe is. “

And again the words of mystics cut through all this coming from the experience with the Divine in and the Absolut around them. So the Spanish nun and Christian mystics Theresa of Avila had long and consistent visionary experience. . From there she spoke the words in ecstasy::

“Our bodies

are the leaves of God.

The apparent seasons of life and death our eyes can suffer;

but our souls, dear, I will just say this forthright: they are God Himself,

Meister Eckhart who also spoke from an experience of Samadhi, of immersing into pure consciousness, and who lived in the 1400 in Germany in a  Dominican order.:And he said

Every act reveals God and expands His being.
I know that may be hard to comprehend.
All creatures are doing their best
to help God in His birth of Himself.

I like to speak about some PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS of all this.

The truth cannot be said, if it said it is not the trutz LaoTse .

So the mind who is seeking cannot really understand consciousness, it is really beyond its grasping. Whenever the mind hears something it has to refer to information, associations that have been collected and it assumes then a meaning on the base of that.

And I have shared many times ago many who had Samadhi, the immersion into pure consciousness were unable to describe it…only their poetry helped us to get a glimpse of what they had experienced.

As it is said before: the moment we want to describe it, we must make distinction, but the Absolute consciousness has not opposite….it is transcendent.

First we need to realize that  Quantum physics is just beginning of an understanding.

Second, that the mind cannot understand it, as it is in another state. And makes distinctions and association to what it already knows.

So as Paul Lowe says in this context it seems easy to give up family, jobs and matrial things when one is seeking, but to Giving up what you think you know and who you think you are, is much more challenging.  it won’t be realized only when we stop attempting To understand, says Paul Lowe.

Unless you leave your father, mother sister said Jesus Christ, you will not reach the kingdom of god. It is an analogy and means leave your attachment, your experience with them
Most of all we must empty ourselves, clear our emotions and become still.

or as Meister Eckhart the German Christan Mystics said 600 years ago so clearly:

“Since it is God’s nature not to be like anyone, we have to come to the state of being nothing in order to enter into the same nature that He is. [German sermon 7,)”

So is this here just another mind game. Not completely. Something in us, our own divine inner Being, the Atman resonates with the things we discuss here. The more we hear  these thoughts, the more we expand our own individual consciousness…It can support us eventually in our endeavor to be, to not know … and to then simply know the One.

I invite you to read and comprehend this words from your heart., they are from Eckhart Tolle, a man who had experienced pure consciousness and shares his wisdom nowadays with all who open to hear: And I quote
There are three words that convey the secret of the art of living, the secret of all success and happiness:
One with Life. Being one with life is being one with Now. You then realize that you don’t live your life, but life lives you. Life is the dancer and you are the dance.

The word enlightenment conjures up the idea of some
superhuman accomplishment, and the ego likes to keep
it that way, but it is simply your natural state of felt oneness  with Being.
It is a state of connectedness with something immeasurable and indestructible, something that, almost paradoxically, is essentially you and yet is much greater than you.
It is finding your true nature beyond name and form.”

Quantum physics also points to another important implication. We are co-creators and can create our own reality our Life. And after all these concepts lin the next episode look at some aspects how we do this and how we can consciously and actively create our Life. We are already doing it consciously or not.

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Always, always love yourself.


June 9 science and God part 2

Excerpts from shownotes from the blog talk radio show

JUST BE IT on consciousness unlimited blog talk radio

In this part 2 of our episodes Science and God we will look at the following questions

Where does the word quantum, quanta come from?

If quantum physics says matter is just one of many realities , what do we actually see and feel around us then?

Is science moving closer to describe God, pure consciousness?

We will look at the idea of entanglement or non locality in quantum physics-

And we will look how2 fathers of modern quantum physics Planck, Heisenberg dealt with the idea of religions.

Modern science is now slowly discovering and confirming what the wisdom of indigenous people all over the world and sages and seekers  1000 of years ago already knew.

The main paradigm in our society is still the materialistic view of classical science. Here one  never ask the question of this seemingly immeasurable existence of God, but looks only at that which can be measured and fits into the mechanical view of its natural laws. and  we also see increasingly number of modern scientist are telling us about remarkable findings in the field of science and also are willing to explore the idea of God, a greater consciousness being part of our existence.

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Quanto, Quanto….

In year of 1900 Max Planck was looking into the question how much energy does an atom have.  Working on light and temperature and the basic questions was: How much energy is there? How much, quanto…? Quant comes from the Greek language and means How much?

Max Planck was the most important German physicist in the beginning of 1900. He was only able to have an answer on this questions when he quantized the energy, meaning

It was not one consistent stream of energy as classical physics like to see it a continuum, but  unbelievable discreet packages of energies, one after the other like small pearls on a string
Max Planck called them´simply quantum, quanta from the word How much in Greek. In classical physics, energy is a continuum. In subatomic domains, energy states exist in discrete small packages. or energy levels like rungs on a ladder among which particles “jump randomly.”

So  Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck is considered to be the inventor of quantum theory. He received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1918.

Yet it was actually Albert Einstein who made quantum physics popular.

Einstein found that also Light exists of small packages of energies…quanta of light. These particles of light are called photons. This was the breakthrough for the idea of quantum physics. Today we detect electrons, protons, and photons light quants. These smallest units of lights are present all over our universe.

I like to point out that the jargon of quantum physics like spin, particles and waves, are all analogies and images to mathematical formulas…one cannot ever see a particle or a wave but calculate its existence. It was Werner Heisenberg who simply proved through mathematical calculation that a quant (the smallest unit of something) cannot be identified as a location and momentum at the same time. BECAUSE!!  the observer will always influence the result. One could only calculate various probabilities, a field of possibilities.

This was and is of course not at all accepted by classical physics and even too much for  Einstein
This is when he wrote his famous reply (known as God doesn not throw dice)  in a letter and I quote: : “The quantum mechanic should receive a lot of respect. But an Inner voice tells me, that this is not the final. Theory does deliver much, aber it does not get us closer to the mystery of the Old Man. Anyway I am convinced that the Old Man does not throw dice. (Letter to Max Born, December 1926).   I found it interesting that Einstein speaks about an Inner voice, an intuition.

No mainstream scientist today would be allowed to use Inner voice or intuition.

And here is Niels Bohr reply

Einstein, don’t tell God what to do. (Niels Bohr in response to Einstein)
Those who are not shocked when they first come across quantum physics cannot possibly have understood it. …. When it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry. The poet, too, is not nearly so concerned with describing facts as with creating images. It is wrong to think that the task of physics is to find out how Nature is. Physics concerns what we say about Nature. (Niels
Bohr, On Quantum Physics, 1885-1962).

So Niels Bohr admitted,  that science is only what we think and see as reality.
So the task of physics is not to look at the  intrinsic qualities, the substance behind what has been found..I also like how he admits that the language of quantum physics is close to poetry , vague and speaking in images, yet it holds an empirical truth, clearly proven by mathematically formulas..

One has to expand his way of thinking to move beyond the  cross matter …if one moves to a microscopic level of the surface of the table one can already see  “mountain and canyons” , then looking deeper I can measure vibrating atoms. That what we call matter is just a vibrating wave  potential, no one knows what it is really.

“Matter is regarded as being constituted by a region of space in which the field is extremely intense…. There is no place in this new kind of Physics both for the field and matter, for the field is the only reality.Albert Einstein

In other words matter consist 99 % of empty space, which is in itself not empty at all.

“Enough with such questions! –
Let silence take you to the core of life.

All your talk is worthless
When com
pared to one whisper
of the Beloved.”

From Ode 442 trans. by Jonathan Star and Shahram Shiva
A Garden Beyond Paradise: The Mystical Poetry of Rumi


Experiments have shown that there are connections outside of space and time—outside of space and time! They did an experiment in  that an atom emits two  light quanta, 2 photons.
Notice they have been first entangled/connected in the atom. They are sent opposite ways, and somehow these photons affect one another’s behavior at a distance, without exchanging any signals through space.  Instantaneously, and  Einstein said the speed of light is the fastest speed, now that has been questioned by the instant connection. The full implications of non-locality may be beyond our grasp still…even if the photons would be light years apart the connection is instant, in the moment one looks at one photon the other instantly receives the signal to also show its state.

The illusion of the classical scientific paradigm is shattered by the quantum principle and also their . assumption that there is an immutable objective reality “out there” that is totally independent of what happens in consciousness “in here.” .

In the 1920 Bohr, Heisenberg and even early Max Planck spoke against the idea of so called positivism, a reductive only empirical based science which did not allow any room anymore for deeper philosophical questions, even though Max Planck did clearly speak in lectures and writings that quantum theory actually demands to look beyond, to discuss metaphysics or say it clearly to …looking at the fundamental question of God..

Werner Heisenberg speaks in his book” The part and the whole” about:

Is it not worth it  to find behind the order of structures in a larger sense consciousness…And these structures could be its intention. Calling it consciousness might be too much from a human perspective…and its not clear in a scientific sense but we must be allowed to think this said Werner Heisenberg.

Quantum theory and its experiment leaves too many questions:

What is this empty space of 99 % in matter?

How do the former entangled 2 photons instantaneously connect?

What causes the electrons, photons  act randomly and seemingly chaotic?
Quantum theory forces a new kind of logic in science that is still mathematical and discipliced.

The Nobel prize physicist Eugene Wigner of Princeton has repeatedly written that consciousness is at the root of the quantum measurement problem.

Yet classical science still beliefs in a Lifeless mechanism,  a clock held by the endless cycle of matter, space and time…
As Elisabet Sahtorius, the evolutionary biologist writes:
“It was utterly illogical to eliminate the inventor engineer while keeping the concept of nature as mechanism. “
Without an inventor for the mechanical universe, scientists created the bizarre idea that the complexity of our universe has risen accidently or by itself . There is no purpose in it.

Yet Quantum physics and  an increasing number of scientist think differently and include to matter, space and time: the observer, consciousness.

All has  been thought again by science, what has been known by seekers and wisdom teachers of ancient cultures and many indigenous cultures 1000s of years ago. They recognized that nature has a soul, a consciousness in which they were immersed

Allow me to quote part of a prayer of the Native Americans

“Now Talking God With your feet I walk
I walk with your limbs,
I carry forth your body,
for me your mind thinks,
your voice speaks for me ..
I am surrouned by it
I am immersed in it …END OF QUOTE

All of nature spoke to them, they were one with the tree, the birds, the deer…and they saw themselves as an aspect of the Greater All. They saw God in everything, as did the Christian mystics in their quest for a union with the divine:
And I quote from the well known German mystics Meister Eckhart who lived in the 1400 .

Apprehend God in all things for God is in all things
Every single creature is full of God and is a book about God
Every creature is a word of God
If I spent enough time with the tiniest creature – even a caterpillar
I would never have to prepare a sermon. So full of God is every creature. “t

The space around them was not empty but full with the word of God, the expression of God like this prayer of the Yokuts tribe:
My words are tied in one, with the great mountains, with the great rocks with the great trees…in one with my body and my heart. …and you day, and you night all of you see me one with the world…”

The so called primitive cultures, ridiculed and oppressed and nearly wiped out, they are arising again with modern science as a people who simply knew.

Also the ancient writings of the Vedic seers from India..who say You are that, Atman which is identical with Brahman…like a single drop of water in the ocean which has the same quality as the vastness of the ocean. About 2000 years ago they also shared the following story which is close to the imagery of quantum physics and the full empty space

Unseen salt.

A father gives his son a large chunk of salt and says:
“Take this salt and put it in a bowl of water”

Some hours later came the 2n request from the father:
Bring me the salt, which you have put into the water

But the boy looked and looked he could not find anymore
Taste the water, how does it taste?

Truly beloved son,
what is in this water you cannot take it in your hands

You cannot take it with your fingers
And still it is there

This most suble is the soul in it is the whole world“

So I shared the wisdoms of  indigenous people and ancient cultures, which are now confirmed by the findings of quantum physics and especially from modern scientist who clearly say that consciousness is the missing link. Let us honor these cultures, we called primitive and uneducated, because they never split up religions and science. Let us learn from them.

Elisabet Sahtouris, Ph.D. is an internationally known American/Greek evolution biologist and futurist.. She has taught at the University of Massachusetts and M.I.T..,

“I reversed the scientific story I was taught from seeing consciousness as the end product of evolution to seeing consciousness as the source of evolution. In other words, the universe, to me, is fundamentally Consciousness — alive, aware and intelligent.”

This Consciousness is non-local, i.e. everywhere, and is what different cultures variously personify as God, under many names. It is also what physicists now call “zero point energy” — the infinite energy existing at every point in space.”

Quantum theory the observer Double Slit experiment

Dr Quantum explains the  Double Slit Experiment

Not only does an electron not ‘think and know’ it’s being observed, it doesn’t exist at all until it has been observed. The prior state is potential, which is collapsed by the act of observation – that’s what makes this experiment so utterly, stunningly incredible. The scientific community is still reeling from this discovery,

This clip is from: “What The Bleep Do We Know!?: Down The Rabbit Hole” and is used for educational purposes.

June 2 Science and God part 1

Excerpts from the show notes of the Just be it show

Episode 13 on June 2, 2012

 Science and God part 1



 Hello I welcome you to the show Just Be it at consciousness unlimited blog talk radio.

This is Rosemarie Heyer speaking.

Thank you for tuning in tonight. Here we explore the Inner Being, pure consciousness and look at the many paths and ideas how we can consciously connect to a Greater Intelligence in us and around us.

Synchronicity is part of our reality and I do not believe in accidents. So you have chosen this show so I invite you to stay and see what you supposed to find here for your own journey…

Today we will look at modern science and how it ventures into the spiritual realm to connect unexplainable findings of quantum physics, brain research, genetic engineering so to validate the existence of a spiritual dimension.

You can also find more information about all episodes of the Just Be it show with articles and quotes from the show on my blog justbeittalk@wordpress.com

I do appreciate your participation in this journey, love to hear your comments and ideas please write to me at justbeit13@googlemail.com.

So the question we will discuss are:

Is it really possible to prove God by science?

Can science prove that there is consciousness?

Why is quantum theory the most used scientific theory to explain a spiritual dimension in our world.

Welcome back to the Just Be it show, this is Rosemarie Heyer speaking and tonight I am talking around science vs. God. One of the questions I want to discuss is: Why does classic or materialistic science beliefs advance and explain our complete world and the cosmos, without ever including on the fundamental presence of a Creator or the Absolutes?

I have talked about materialistic or classical science before in another episode, this science which is the majority of scientific approach today is still based on the mechanical principles which were laid as an foundation by Isaac Newton more than 300 years ago. The universe operates by natural laws like a giant clock, and there are no gaps left for a God to fill.

Stephen Hawkings refers to models of a universe which created itself, God is not needed.

Newton himself would have rejected this. He considered God to have a vital role in setting up the initial conditions for the universe.

There is an interesting analogy it was inspired by the idea that the cosmos is a well constructed machine. So an English theologian William Paley said, if one would find a fine watch in the forest the person must think immediately it must have been made by an excellent watchmaker. So Paley argues, that just the simple existence of such a complex and finely tuned universe must compel us to believe in a Creator, in God’s existence.

However as we all know classical science does not belief in the existence of the Absolute. However this view is only about 500 years old. Meister Eckhart who I quoted in the last episode was a scientist and a religious leader of his times.

The paradigma of modern science is to focus only on that what is measurable in detail, and that everyone else is ridiculed and shut out of the community who poses the bigger questions:

Like what is consciousness, what is the cause of all this..? It is forbidden to think or speak about this.

That is the sad fact…and we can see it in every textbook at school. Even, Werner Heisenberg  one of the main founding father of quantum theory and his circle still discussed this view of modern science with his circle of colleagues He was certainly a man who did include the  bigger picture.


Now imagine

You wake up tomorrow and turn on the news..its everywhere on…science has proven that God exits..

The explanation is so simple that we all understand it.now doubt God exists..

we would all see it as a scientific fact that God exists, like we firmly see it as a scientific fact that an apple falls down due to gravity…..imagine..

Children would then grow up learn it in kindergarten, in school…not in churches or religion communities…what would that mean to you would it change your Life?

There is growing number of scientists who in recent years who have ventured into the domain of the spiritual. They are trying to understand some of the inexplicable findings which might validate the existence of a spiritual dimension.



Steve Hammershoff, Fred Allan Wolf, Dr. John Hagelin, Hans Peter Dürr a student of Heisenberg, Dr. Goswami, Nobel price recipients like John Eccles  and the number is growing

Some of you might have heard or seen the movie What the bleep do we know which features  scientists  speaking to the idea of spirituality and consciousness from their understanding of the world.

Yet could it be that in their attempt they are reducing spirit, God to just a part of their equations, to an object of scientific curiosity?

As the Christian Mystic Meister Eckhart says:

Do not imagine that your reason can grow to the knowledge of God.

The main theory which causes them to makes God part of their search are the findings of the quantum physics.

These findings are so unusual, bizarre and counter-intuitive to our understanding of our world, that eventually one has to include the existence of God to find out what this is all about.

Quantum physics

Imagine you are putting sand into bucket…it flows and looks like a stream of sand, only when you go closer you realize It exits of uncountable small sand particles BREAK

Thanks for staying with me in this journey into the center of existence in matter…the quantum physics.

and if you look even deeper they are not existing either, they are waves and if you look closer again you see that there is mostly empty space…a field of power, a field of possibility. What is that?

The Quantum theory is most successful theory in physics (PET scans magnetic resonance scans are based on quantum physics. Laser CD’s) 1/3 of Gross National Product of Great Britain  results in quantum theory, It opens a new realistic view of the world, and has been found valid also for the macrocosmos.

The deeper you go, the simpler it becomes, or elegant. Yet at the same time it becomes intensely dynamic, and alive. The deconstruction of this smallest
Particle leads to such a tremendous destructive force.

Now back to our statement before the break…when scientist look more closely at the atom modell they found that there is really nothing there…they compared the nucleus of an atom to the whole of an atom.. When they measured the distance of the nucleus in relation to the whole atom, they found that the nucleus is ridiculously small, like a small bullet in the mids of a football stadium, while the electrons (large as a pepper corn) are circling it in the stands.

There was a great philosopher and scientist whose name was Arthur Eddington and he gave us a model to understand this concept. He pointed out: here I am, sitting at a table, writing this paper. However, when I describe this “real” table in the language of science as I understand it, it is a ghost; in fact it is made of atoms that are themselves mostly empty space.

Is it really empty space? It is not empty but full of energy, vibrating, very alive. Grandmother Parisha used to say that even the space in front of us is not empty. Take a moment to stretch out your hand in the seemingly empty space and you are reaching thru dimensional fields of potentials and entities.  A specific example could be the picture of so called Orbs People made pictures of these beings with fast flash light shutters..hundreds or more at the same spot sometimes…round foggy shapes were cached by digital cameras all over the world but not by the naked eye.
Your brain does not belief they exist , so you cannot see it. You can find links to see these quiet common pictures on the internet on my blog justbeittalk@wordpress.com

Yes it is in the eye of the beholder…

It reminds me on an anecdote the famous scientist and nobel price recipient Stephen Hawking shared in one of his books: says the fish in a bowl aquarium sees the world warped, distorted
and actually the city council of the town Monza in Italy issued a ban on holding fishes in a water bowl, for reasons of animal abuse.

The fly sees certainly a different reality then we, the bee communicated by dancing infront of the beehive..and sees things much differently..they would insist this is the reality.

So we send out our satellites called Hubble and say so far we have not found any other civilization. Making beautiful pictures, with the way we know how to make pictures…and we say well there is nothing there…Orbs show there is more then we can think off…maybe ET not necessary can be measured the way we measure things.
But most important is, science draws conclusion and not asking the bigger question: What is the empty space in the macro – microcosmos including the quest for the the existence of God, an Absolute consciousness dreaming this world.

In the Mayavada Sutra from India which speaks of the non existence of the (material) world it says:

What seems to be the world, matter and energy, is in REALITY consciousness nothing but consciousness.
The world is based and sustained on the imaginary dreaming power of the Absolute consciousness.

The Mayavada means teachings about the delusions (false belief of world) and are based on interpretation of ancient Vedic texts by the Indian philosopher Shankara over 1.500 years ago.

The small but growing number of scientist are convinced, that the universe, in order to exist, requires a conscious sentient being to be aware of it. Without an observer, he claims, it only exists as a possibility.

The idea of an observer derived from the famous double slit experiment. It proved that measurements/observing the process leads to different results …specifically that a wave a vibrational state transforms into particle and vice versa. You can find a link for a great explanation of this experiments by Dr. Fred Alan Wolf also featured as Dr. Quantumphysics on my blog justbeittalk.wordpress.com.

So consciousness is doing the measurement, which initiated the move from a field of potential into a result. However the result is not depending from the consciousness. There is no cause and effect for the randomness of the results, says science today. The observing/measureing  consciousness is just initiating the manifestation but is not! Causing the specific outcome, which is always random.

Dr. Fred Allan Wolf says: Without us the world is a gue place. There are no stones, tables or chairs unless we the observer brings things into material being. All is just wave, field of possibilities,

Does the moon disappear when I don’t look at said Einstein, when he heard about that.

Yet I do belief that also these findings, clearly proven in many double split experiments, sound closer to spiritual dimensions than to material matter, isn’t?
What do you think, let me know by writing to me at Just beit13@googlemail.com.


It is from the book called the psychology of consciousness by Robert Ornstein

“An Ant got lost one day on a sheet of paper and saw how a pen wrote with fine black lines..

How beautiful that is, said the ant, these remarkable thing with its own Life makes beautiflul designs with such energy and so large, that it is equal to the work of all ants in the world. And the design looks like millions of ants. She passed its interpretation to another ant, who was also interested. She thanked the ant for her good observation and thinking. But another ant said, I admit, I based my research on your efforts. But I noticed that this thing is not in control. This pen is connected with certain other things which direct it. This is the source of power for it and must be acknowledged. “ So the ants had discovered the finger.

Much time had passed, when another ant crawled between the fingers and discovered they were part of a hand. It did extensive research of the hand while it crawled all over it.  It went back to its people and said: I have important news: these smaller things are part of something real Big. This real big controls all movements. “ But then they discovered that the hand was connected with an arm, and the arm was connected with a body, and they found feet – but they were not part of the writing process. The investigation is still going on. The ants have a pretty good understanding about the mechanics of writings, now. However they will not gain any understanding about the meaning and the intention of the writing, and how it is finally controlled –due to their approach of research. Why? The reason for this is, they are educated in classic scientific work. “ END OF STORY

Again as Werner Heisenberg says metaphysics have become a no, no…it is not allowed to ask the bigger questions, the question of a Creative Force, the question of meaning.
There are other concepts of Quantum theory which point to the existence of spirit.

Foremost the famous non locality and quantum entanglement, that show us that there is an order in the universe. I will be more specific about that in the next episode.


Let us have another look on the idea that our mind creates the reality we see and live in, that has be proven by neuroscience many times. .Interestingly is that the PET scan and the magnetic resonance scan of brains are built from the knowledge of quantum theory

Every man’s world picture is and always remains a construct of his mind, and cannot be proved to have any other existence. Said the famous physicist Erwin Schrödinger.
Whatever that reality is, it exists apart from our perception of it.
When I see a tree there I only see the image which I have in my mind. Not the direct experience of the tree. Whatever the tree is in true reality, it is not green. Light of various frequencies is reflected from the tree to the eye. Cellos in the idea respond only to the  light in three frequency ranges (the three primary colors red yellow, blue). But it has been found out, that all that is passed back to the brain are electro-chemical impulses;  no color here. So the green I see is a quality created in consciousness. It exists only in my mind.

When you see a drawing of a cube it exists just of 12 lines on a flat sheet of paper, 2 dimensional. However when you look at the drawing you immediately see a cube in 3 dimensional with depth.

There is the so called real reality (whatever that may be) and the reality constructed in your mind.  The Hindu word Maya means delusion (not as commonly held illusion) delusion a false belief of the world. The reality we perceive is very real for us, hard and strong.

However our beliefs about this world are false.  For whatever reason, we are designed to forget that this is not how reality really appears.

With our visual senses it is most obvious as we can see sometimes how our brain tricks us into a image  which is not there. However this  illusion happens with all senses, for example hearing

There is no sound out there. Just pressure waves in the air, perhaps, but no sound. Sound exists only as an experience in the mind of a perceiver–may it be a human being or an animal.


So will science prove that there is god or will ist always be a personal endeavor to find God within following the command which was written over the entrance of the famous Greek temple in Delphi: Know thy self.

In all mystical writings none had experienced the unions of oneness, the pure consciousness

In the matter around him…all mystics all enlightened people who experienced the same and the same (which I have shared many times in all my episodes) the melting into the Oneness, the dissolving of the I, the ecstasy of being swept away from an immeasurable sense of Love or Union with the Divine. All that was found within, the mystics and seekers told us: Go within…

And this means by experiencing it…not by measuring it or calculating it. It is the Great Mystery.

And this experience transcends any religion or any one philosophy. It is the maximum expanded comprehension of All that is.

 C.G. Jung, the founding father of modern psychology said in one of his book when he spoke about the art of alchemy..and I think this is also true to our subject of today.
And I quote:

“…and these processes are mysterious, as they cause a lot of questions to the human mind, …
For which he will work still long and probably in vain..As it it doubtful if the mind is the right instrument for this. …Alchymie calls itself an art..for a reason.  Because it knows that these are things, which can only be captured by experiencing it. END OF QUOTE

And I like to end and I invite you to take a moment to look around and realize what is really in front of you and around you…you are living in a field of potentiality of random results put in motion  by your observing mind…

Thank you for listening, next Saturday we will look at non locality and other findings of modern science to find a validation for spirit…Have a great week in the reality you create, and remember:

Always always love yourself.

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